WHAT SHE SAID.

I think this show lost me somewhere around the end of the second season. My spidey-sense was telling me they were going to ruin it.

I say bring Deadwood back! That’s one good thing about non sci-fi series, the writers don’t have as many ways to abuse the story.

They just fired two of the executive producers. Only about 12 episodes late on that one NBC…

I’d honestly say that the biggest problem with this episode wasn’t the actual butchering of the plot.  It was the fact that they attempted to cover 2 separate time periods.  One was a year ago.  The other was 18 months ago.  And you’re going back and forth between those essentially 2 time frames on three locations. 

As for the rest?

Her father had her on a REALLY short leash and she didn’t do field work. Remember when we first met in her the Primatech compound in season two she proclaimed she hadn’t been outside in years?

Don’t forget she was also borderline psychotic to start with too.  She had no problem killing a man.  She really only began showing humanity after HRG captured her for the trade, and hinted at what her father did to her.

Sylar… oh, I’m sorry… GABRIEL… lived with his mother, who he killed shortly after gaining his first power. Remember the apartment they had, all filled with old-lady-type things and that huge figurine collection? Where was ANY of that when Elle arrived on the scene?

You’re wrong on this partly.  Sylar I think was living alone at the point he gained his powers.  They did change his apartment though.  Remember finding Sylars apartment with his more complete map in the back area that Mohinder found, that quickly was cleaned out?  Different apartment than what we saw.  And he didn’t kill his mother until after killing Isaac.  But still horrible, and where the hell was papa suresh?

All of a sudden Meredith cares about her baby? Y’know, the one she lied to and drove away when her long-lost daughter Claire tracked her down in the first season? Yeah… I’m buying THAT one. *snort* And how did she know Claire’s name? She couldn’t have known what HRG named her. Ridiculous.

Don’t forget humanizing Thompson as well.  Talk about pointless.  He’s not the type of guy that would do that.

I don’t even know where to start with the Petrelli mess. Nathan didn’t know Linderman in season one. It was the fucking lynchpin to the season, especially the end game. HE HAD NEVER MET HIM BEFORE. Now Nathan and Linderman were hob-nobbing only a year ago? Bullshit. And Papa Petrelli was LONG dead when season one began, which we know chronologically started just before the end of this episode (the taxi scene gives it away). None of that mess made the slightest bit of sense. NONE of it.

Like with Sylar, we might need to actually go back to the Season 1 Episode “6 months ago” to refresh memory.  I don’t know if he ever says he’s never met Linderman before.  Afterall Linderman was helping to fund his Congress run.  It would also establish when their dad died, whether before or after the car accident, because his death did occur in the 6 months ago timeframe.  Also I believe Nathan said he was there when the photo that was central to the first part of season 2 was taken, so he’d have met Linderman before.

But yeah what a mess.  Completely agreee with your assessment.

The internet meme-word “retcon” was never more clearly defined than it was in this episode.

I dunno that retcon was a creation of the internet. It started getting used a lot more out of people discussing these things more easily, but I think it’s been in at least some use since “Infinite Crisis”.

My bad.  At the risk of overusing it though...holy fuck did Heroes retcon some shit this week.