Frank Miller on CGI people in movies

By JimK

JimK:  Frank’s words:

There is a theological debate about the role of Computer Generated Images (CGI) that has yet to be engaged. Fanatics of CGI have placed no ceiling on their ambition. The true believers are determined that we can, with just the right use of, say, motion-capture animation, produce life on celluloid (or tape, or whatever) that will breathe and glare and sweat and grunt and triumph as well as any human being could. While Spielberg showed us all that giant reptiles from our distant past (indeed, not our own past, as we weren’t born yet) were scary as all get out, there hasn’t been a single CGI “human” who’s convinced. (I don’t count Yoda, since he was a born as a Muppet.) And, as a viewer, I note a swift and steady draining out of my own belief in “human” characters as they turn, in long shot, to inhuman “bendies” like Spider-Man smashed into New York building after New York building in Sam Raimi’s otherwise admirable epic. CGI people are not people. They are constructs, and they look it. And they sure sound it: just how many lameass Darth Vader sound-alikes can we stomach?

It just doesn’t work. Not yet. And there’s the smell of hubris in any effort to transplant real, flesh-and-blood actors with CGI constructs. Actors tell the story. Their quirks, their errors, their unexpected sweat, their foibles – that is how we experience drama. The screenplay is the Alpha. The actors, the Omega. Everything beyond either of these helps get us there, reinforcing, filling in between these two poles. The story is the thing, it’s everything, and only people can tell it. People. Flesh-and-blood actors. Stu Maschwitz, CGI wizard, helped me understand this. Of all people. Sure, Stu had the entire CGI arsenal at his disposal – but he insisted that THE SPIRIT be true to its soul. Even when I wanted to go for an impossible, across-the-city camera move, he balked, saying it would “look digital”. And Stu wouldn’t let one damn character turn into a “bendie” or digital in any way. Hence my favorite shot – the Spirit leaps onto a water tower, and stumbles, just for a moment. Pure Eisner. Like I do, Stu wants THE SPIRIT to be what it is: A love letter to New York City, featuring the best talents we can find, abetted by abundant CGI that you will find elegant…or invisible. Thanks for the lesson, buddy. Frank Miller.

The reason I am posting this?  well…umm…I saw the trailer for The Spirit when we saw The Incredible Hulk.  It…umm…it looked kind of bad.  The trailer is basically the lead character running and jumping over rooftops, and it’s bad.  It looks digitally animated.  The red tie (the only color you see) is even worse.  It looks like a cartoon drawing out of Roger Rabbit pasted onto a more realistically animated person.  The motions look digital, and the character isn’t grounded in the world as he moves.

Not sure what all this means.  Maybe Frank Miller can’t see how fake the movement of his hero really is.  Maybe he’s the kind of guy that is conceptually brilliant but really shouldn’t direct.  Maybe it was rushed animation for the trailer.  I just thought it was worth commenting on, since he’s making such a big deal about other films and how their motion cap/CGI looks fake, but, well…so does his.  It screams “digital.”  It’s not like enhanced Sin City technique…it really looks digitally generated.  Like I said, I don’t know what that means for the movie…but I will still see it.  Miller has earned my box office loyalty to date.


Rate this post:
1 2 3 4 5


06/20/2008 7:04 PM
Categories: Movies
Tags: ,,,,,,

Related Entries
Halloween Post: Fridge Fright
Heroes - “Tabula Rasa”
Heroes - “Hysterical Blindness”
Heroes - “Acceptance”
Heroes - “Ink”


Comments

1   ErikTheRed wrote:

I saw the trailer on-line. I was like “Yeah! Frank Miller! Yeah…. oh… fuck…. no… noooooo…. noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo…. <sob>.... Frank, you bastard! Why? Why for the love of fuck?!??!?”

Anyway, there’s been so much celluloid suckage over the past few years I was over it in about 5 minutes. But still, Frank, dude, this blows.

United States   06/20 at 07:53 PM  

2  Rann Rann wrote:

Maybe Frank’s just an old hack who had a few big hits in the comic book world years ago that were largely flukes, and he’s been coasting along on the goodwill from those ever since.

I mean, honestly, he’s a twit, he really is. Do you know why he “abandoned” Hollywood in the first place and refused to come back until some director was such a lickspittle cocksucking fan that he pledged to use Frank’s exact comic books as script and storyboard?

Because he turned in unshootable scripts for Robocop 2 and Robocop 3, and got all pissy when the studios sent them back and told him they were unshootable. He cried the tears of infinite sadness, and took his ball and went home until Sin City.

Which, yeah, has a few fun parts, but it’s one of the most fridge-riddled movies ever and I avoid seeing it anymore because I know every time I do something else silly and/or lame is gonna jump out at me.

United States   06/21 at 01:40 AM  

3  Vox.Robotica Vox.Robotica wrote:

I still wonder what made Miller’s Robocop 2 scripts unfilmable - I never read the comic adaptations, and the synopsis sounds an awful lot like the subpar sequel that eventually came out, so I don’t have much ammo to use for comparison.

But I don’t think I’d go so far as to call Frank a hack.  He had a great run on Daredevil in the early eighties, wrote the greatest Batman story ever, and gave us the Sin City saga. 

I don’t have a word for it, but I believe that Frank let the notoriety bestowed on him for The Dark Knight Returns (which was rightly deserved, IMO), go to his head, and so he phoned in The Dark Knight Strikes Back (Biggest comic disappointment EVER), and now he appears to be destroying the character that started it all - Will Eisner’s The Spirit.

He’s doing this because he can, and if drooling fanboys keep giving him their money, it only encourages him to continue.  I’m praying that The Spirit fails and Frank pitches another fit and leaves the movie business for good.  Of course, if he did that, then, well, he’d do it because nobody is smart enough to “get” his work.

United States   06/21 at 08:27 AM  

4   Victor wrote:

The Dark Knight Returns is one of the most overrated graphic novels ever.  He didnt just phone in The Dark Knight Strikes Back, All Star Batman and Robin is even worse - think Marv with a Batmna cowl who says Im the GODDAMNED Batman ever 3 panels and thats the story in a nutshell.

My favorite is when Bats fights Green Lantern and he paints the whole building yellow so GL cant do anything then offers him lemonade. 12 year old Robin crushes Hal’s larynx and then Batman has to trache him, its moronic garbage.

Also Joker as a Yakuza tattooed assasin. Just moronic.

United States   06/21 at 07:17 PM  

5  Vox.Robotica Vox.Robotica wrote:

After Dark Knight Strikes back I kept my distance from Miller’s All Star Batman & Robin run. 

Dark Knight Returns is one of the best Batman stories ever, and when you couple that with the strength of Frank’s Batman:Year One arc, you’d think he sort of understood the character a bit more.  Instead, it sounds like he basically turned Batman into a Punisher ripoff that doesn’t kill.  Then again, I haven’t really dug much of the Batman comics in the past decade or so, so maybe he’s just a symptom of a larger problem.

United States   06/21 at 08:25 PM  

6  Rann Rann wrote:

Correction, Vox, Frank Miller likes to turn Batman into a Punisher ripoff who kills a LOT, and gets a thrill from it.

I showed a page of All-Star Batman & Robin to someone, once. They asked me “Who’s the guy in the Batman suit?” I told him, “Frank Miller.”

United States   06/22 at 03:13 AM  


Post a Comment:

Commenting is not available in this weblog entry.